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#41 satanicart

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Posted 05 февруари 2012 - 15:16

Въпреки директното отричане (в последния по-дълъг параграф), това си е чиста проба изнудване. Не бил искал голяма част от парите, искал признание и отразяване на заслугите му към групата... егати тъпотиите... какво да направят, да слагат барабаните му най-отпред на сцената, Ози да пее зад тях, а на екраните физиономията му да се върти толкова колкото и тези на Тони и Ози? Аре у лЕво.

Могат да го заменят без никакъв проблем с няколко хиляди барабаниста. Така или иначе от гледна точка на групата ползата от него е само маркетингова. Не че и това е малко, напротив, но пък един път като тръгне турнето който и да е зад барабаните, никой няма да се сети за него...

Ако пък толкова държат да са с него (което лично мен малко ме съмнява), да му дадат половин милион отгоре и да си го ползват.

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Posted 07 февруари 2012 - 21:40

http://metaltalk.net...hp#.TzFoslDUEjU

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#43 Ozzy

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Posted 07 февруари 2012 - 22:12

Да си призная честно, историята с Bill Ward все по-малко ме интересува. По-скоро се вълнувам относно това какви са причините за изчезването на всички дати за предстоящото турне от сайта на Black Sabbath. От два дена ги няма. Ето това е нещото, което ме притеснява. А не 437-то напускане/изгонване на Ward от групата.
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Posted 07 февруари 2012 - 23:34

Ако има нещо хубаво в цялата работа, то е че ще имам повече пари за шницели и плескавици ...
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#45 Ozzy

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Posted 17 февруари 2012 - 22:10

И така... Очаквано лоши новини, с възможност за избор - връщане на билет (предполагам, че тази опция ще я има) или гледане на друг концерт:

"BLACK SABBATH

TOUR UPDATE: BAND’S SOLE EUROPEAN PERFORMANCE THIS SUMMER SET FOR U.K.’S DOWNLOAD FESTIVAL

OZZY & FRIENDS TO PERFORM MAJORITY OF OTHER SCHEDULED SHOWS

BLACK SABBATH --who late last year confirmed the recording of their first new album in more than 33 years and a worldwide headlining tour--have had to put some plans on hold due to Tony Iommi’s battle with lymphoma. At this time, BLACK SABBATH will perform only one show of this summer’s previously scheduled European tour. It will take place Sunday, June 10 at the U.K.’s Download Festival.
So as not to let the promoters and fans down, OZZY OSBOURNE will now perform the majority of the previously scheduled BLACK SABBATH dates (both festival performances and the headlining shows) billed as OZZY & FRIENDS. These “first ever” OZZY & FRIENDS shows will feature appearances by “special guest” musicians including GEEZER BUTLER (who will join Ozzy for a special BLACK SABBATH set as a show of respect and support to their friend, Tony Iommi) and longtime former OZZY band member Zakk Wylde. In addition, OZZY will be accompanied by longtime collaborator and friend Slash at select shows, with other “special guests” set to join the tour at various stops along the way (full list of dates, appearances below).
Tony Iommi continues to make excellent progress and is looking forward to getting back out on the road. Meanwhile, BLACK SABBATH continue to write and record music in the U.K. for their upcoming album. More information about these dates and BLACK SABBATH’s recording and touring plans is forthcoming.

The 2012 tour dates are as follows:

BLACK SABBATH:

Sun 6/10 Donnington UK Download Festival


OZZY AND FRIENDS:

Wed 5/23 Helsinki, Finland Hartwall Arena
Fri 5/25 Stockholm, Sweden Stadium
Sun 5/27 Jelling, Denmark Jelling Festival
Tue 5/29 Bergen, Norway Bergen Calling Festival
Thu 5/31 Oslo, Norway Spektrum
Sat 6/2 Malmo, Sweden Malmo Stadium
Mon 6/4 Dortmund, Germany Westfalenhalle
Wed 6/6 Prague, Czech Rep O2 Arena
Fri 6/15 Vitoria, Spain Azkena Rock Festival
Sun 6/17 Clisson, France Hellfest
Fri 6/22 Dessel, Belgium Graspop Metal Meeting
Sun 6/24 Milan, Italy Gods of Metal Festival
Tue 6/26 Vienna, Austria Stadthalle
Thu 6/28 Belgrade, Serbia USCE Park
Sun 7/1 Athens, Greece Rockwave Festival – Terra"


И поредно изявление от Bill Ward:

"Dear Sabbath Fans,

I wanted to let you know where things are at, from my point of view, as of today, February 17, 2012.
As my statement of February 2, 2012 indicated, I have not declined to participate in the Sabbath album and tour. At the earliest opportunity, I am prepared to go to the U.K. and record, and later tour with the band.
Last week, we sent further communication to the attorney handling the negotiations to try to reach an agreement. At this time we are waiting to hear back. I remain hopeful for a “signable” contract and a positive outcome.
I want to thank everyone who has voiced and posted their opinions, thoughts, support and love through all media, including the newly constructed sites. I applaud your worldwide reaction in support of the original band. And speaking for myself, your intent and truth will always be respected.
While believing in your freedom for expression, keep in mind that Tony, Ozzy and Geezer are still my lifetime friends, and I cannot support comments with an objectifying or derogatory theme toward them or their various representatives.
Many thanks to all of you. You are truly phenomenal.
Stay safe, stay strong.

Bill Ward"
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#46 antubis

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Posted 17 февруари 2012 - 22:23

Беше пределно ясно, че това ще се случи т.е. че Iommy няма да свири поради лечението му. Какъвто и да е, колкото и пари да има, в каквато и фаза да е рака, поне половин година ще е out of commission. Можеше да го кажат по-рано, за да си спестим парите за самолетни билети. Аз не искам да гледам Ozzy и приятели. Те ще свирят песни на Sabbath, но аз не искам да гледам изпълнения в стил Guns'n'Roses :) Предпочитам да гледам Ozzy Osbourne с неговото си творчество, и Black Sabbath с тяхното.
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Posted 18 февруари 2012 - 01:33

Съмнявам се дали причината за отмяната е само болестта на Тони, но важното е да е жив и здрав. Дано се справи.

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Posted 18 февруари 2012 - 03:58

все пак би било интересно да се види ози със слаш на сцена. такава новина е леко стъписваща за прпмоторите. дали цените на билетите ще останат същите?

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Posted 18 февруари 2012 - 04:41

http://slashonline.com/tour/
слаш е на турне в сащ до 26 май, след това е в европа и нито една от датите му не съвпада с датите на black sabbath.

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Posted 18 февруари 2012 - 04:49

http://www.blic.rs/Z...rn-i-prijatelji

''Avalon Produkcija je u dogovoru sa menadžmentom Ozija Ozborna 28. jun pretvorila u „Ozzy Osbourne & Friends“ festival sa listom izvođača koja će, uz sve ostale detalje, biti saopštena u sredu 22. februara.

U sredu, kada bude objavljeno koje će sve grupe nastupiti te večeri uz „Ozzy Osbourne & Friends“ biće poznato i da li će te večeri, kao Ozijev specijalni gost nastupiti i Sleš.



Svim kupcima ulaznica za koncert grupe „Black Sabbath“ kojima se ne bude svidela lista izvođača „Ozzy Osbourne & Friends“ festivala, „Avalon produkcija“ će omogućiti povrat novca već od ponedeljka 27. februara. ''

както става ясно ,подробности за концерта на 22.2 ,връщане на билети за недоволните 27.2 ....

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Posted 19 май 2012 - 03:34

http://www.birmingha.../#ixzz1tWf3FkfP

довечера че се изясни положението !!!

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Posted 19 май 2012 - 08:30

Кое точно ще се изясни?
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#53 trasholasho

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Posted 19 май 2012 - 13:44

С барабаниста хаха

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Posted 19 май 2012 - 13:53

Ако под "барабаниста" имаш предвид Бил Уорд - там всичко е ясно. А кой ще го замества е абсолютно все тая...
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Posted 19 май 2012 - 21:24

Е, то е изяснено отдавна - Tommy Cluefetos. Не че има някакво значение наистина.

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Posted 20 май 2012 - 07:42

Black Sabbath
Live In Birmingham, UK
19.05.2012 - "O2 Academy"

1. Into the Void
2. Under the Sun
3. Snowblind
4. War Pigs
5. Wheels of Confusion
6. Electric Funeral
7. Black Sabbath
8. The Wizard
9. Behind the Wall of Sleep
10. N.I.B.
11. Fairies Wear Boots
12. Tomorrow's Dream
13. Sweet Leaf
14. Symptom of the Universe (instrumental)
- Drum Solo
15. Iron Man
16. Dirty Women
17. Children of the Grave
Encore:
18. Paranoid (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath intro)
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#57 Ozzy

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Posted 20 май 2012 - 08:04

Както Ozzy, Tony и Geezer казаха - всяка история има две гледни точки:

"I feel sad to see the Sabbath reunion becoming a bit of a soap opera on the internet. It has been a very tough year for us as a band, having announced our reunion plans, only for Tony to be diagnosed with lymphoma, leaving us no choice but to postpone the proposed Sabbath tour, and then for Bill to go public on his site about an un-signable contract. None of us knew how Tony was going to respond to his intensive chemo therapy, and radiotherapy. Ozzy and myself flew to England to be with Tony, and on his “good” days, we’d meet at his home studio and put ideas together for the upcoming album, all sitting down together, no drummer involved, just 3 of us quietly putting together ideas. We thought that when we had enough songs together for a full band rehearsal, we’d move back to L.A and put the whole thing together with Bill. Unfortunately, to our surprise, Bill issued a statement on his site saying he’d been offered an un-signable contract. He hadn’t told any one of us he was having contractual problems, and frankly those things are worked out between our representatives, and never between the four of us let alone in public. We had the idea of keeping just one show in this year, hoping that Tony would be well enough for that show, and that things with Bill would be sorted. As you may expect, a one off show at Donnington Festival (Download) costs an absolute fortune to stage, involving over 50 people, transport, air fares, hotels, meals, agents, promotors, accountants, lawyers etc, so none of us, expected to make much money from it- it was a one off Sabbath show for the fans, before we go into recording the new album. Apparently, this wasn’t acceptable to Bill’s representatives, they wanted an amount that was so unrealistic that it seemed to have been a joke. So we resigned ourselves to doing Download without Bill, hoping he’d change his mind and at least make a guest appearance. We started rehearsals a few weeks ago with Tommy Cluefetos, the drummer who will be on the Ozzy and Friends Tour. Brilliant drummer and good bloke. It was decided we’d better do a warm up show, to break the ice since we haven’t played together live. The O2 Academy was available in Birmingham, where we were rehearsing, so we decided on that, and to make a donation to Help For Heroes Charity, since we’d be ironing out any glitches we may have. Then Bill put out a further statement saying he’d been ready to play the Birmingham show , but he was expected to have to do it “for free”- well, I think that’s basically how you raise money from gigs for charity – you play them “for free”.
All I am saying is that there are two sides to everything. I do hope to play with Bill again some day. For whatever reason; it wasn’t meant to be this time. Bill’s made his decision, and I have to respect that. Hopefully this painful year will be worth the wait for the new Sabbath album and end in joy and happiness for all.

Stay frosty,

Geezer"
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#58 Ozzy

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Posted 20 май 2012 - 08:07

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Снощи, след концерта:

"Thank you, thank you, thank you Birmingham. Best fans ever- you brought out the best in us. It was a privilege playing for you tonight. Tony was a hero- you were the best medicine he has had. Proud to be a Brummie.

Cheers,

Geezer.
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#59 Кико

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Posted 20 май 2012 - 15:23

Концертът снощи беше колосален най-вече заради Тони.
Ужасно е,че такъв скромен и в същото време велик човек,неизбежно,става част от тази помия,състояща се от клевети - кои истина,кои лъжа....
Колкото до Бил,сигурно има причина,но на тези години,при цялото това величие около групата,все си мисля,че можеше да преглътне недоразуменията и да зарадва феновете. Не можех да повярвам,че виждам тази група и то точно в този град,но всеки път,когато поглеждах към мястото на барабаниста ,ми ставаше някак кофти. Момчето се справи блестящо.Показа умения и с дръм соло,но някак не се връзваше с тримата пред него.
Въпреки това,Сабат са си Сабат и тези,които ще имат възможността да ги гледат на Download няма да съжаляват.

Ще цитирам един коментар от YouTube:

Tony Iommi. The man has cancer and still rocks more than many of the new metal acts today! A living legend. All the best to him.

#60 Ozzy

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Posted 20 май 2012 - 16:15

Благородно ти завиждам! :drinks:
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